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	<title>Comments on: Naturally, Tired Leads to Sleepy.</title>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 10:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subjective doesn't mean wrong, though. It means it's your opinion and quite honestly, people don't have to agree with it.

It also doesn't obligate any of us to try and "convince" them that we're right or answer their remarks if they go somewhere else and act in a juvenile manner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subjective doesn&#8217;t mean wrong, though. It means it&#8217;s your opinion and quite honestly, people don&#8217;t have to agree with it.</p>
<p>It also doesn&#8217;t obligate any of us to try and &#8220;convince&#8221; them that we&#8217;re right or answer their remarks if they go somewhere else and act in a juvenile manner.</p>
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		<title>By: Talekyn</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>Talekyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 03:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Subjective is definitely the right word, Doctor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subjective is definitely the right word, Doctor!</p>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1034</link>
		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mentioned much the same as well, so no you definitely weren't being grumpy or imagining things. Remember, as so many posters here seem to forget when they read them, that your review is basically opinion, and if I'm using the correct word, also subjective. You're allowed to like or dislike things without having to feel backed into a corner or like you did something wrong/missed something because you didn't like a comic.

That is, after all, what makes us individuals, right? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned much the same as well, so no you definitely weren&#8217;t being grumpy or imagining things. Remember, as so many posters here seem to forget when they read them, that your review is basically opinion, and if I&#8217;m using the correct word, also subjective. You&#8217;re allowed to like or dislike things without having to feel backed into a corner or like you did something wrong/missed something because you didn&#8217;t like a comic.</p>
<p>That is, after all, what makes us individuals, right? <img src='http://comicfencing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Talekyn</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1030</link>
		<dc:creator>Talekyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and I both harped on the lack of originality aspect of the strip.  So I wasn't just imagining it or being grumpy last night ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and I both harped on the lack of originality aspect of the strip.  So I wasn&#8217;t just imagining it or being grumpy last night &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I dont think you'll start a debate :) Classically, Christians put forth their beliefs (and still do,unfortunately, in many cases, in that manner) so your observation is a valid one.

I think Sly's point (and mine as well) was that the Christian bashing "humor" can come off as trite simply because no one would dare do that to other beliefs for fear of being crucified (you'll pardon the term) for being intolerant. It's ok to do it to Christians, though, which is a double standard.

Good points all around, Shawn&lt;strong&gt;!&lt;/strong&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I dont think you&#8217;ll start a debate <img src='http://comicfencing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Classically, Christians put forth their beliefs (and still do,unfortunately, in many cases, in that manner) so your observation is a valid one.</p>
<p>I think Sly&#8217;s point (and mine as well) was that the Christian bashing &#8220;humor&#8221; can come off as trite simply because no one would dare do that to other beliefs for fear of being crucified (you&#8217;ll pardon the term) for being intolerant. It&#8217;s ok to do it to Christians, though, which is a double standard.</p>
<p>Good points all around, Shawn<strong>!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Robare</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Robare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, it's not my intention to start a religious debate but, a possible reason that Christians tend to get bad reputation in the modern tolerance game could be because some other religions tend to be more tolerant.  I'm not going to profess to be a religious scholar, but I think it's much more common for non-christian religions to include a concept like "We're all striving for the same basic ideal, but we take different roads to get there..."  Christianity on the other hand seems to come off like "Our way or the highway."  Believe = Get into heaven and the good graces of god/ don't believe = go to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, it&#8217;s not my intention to start a religious debate but, a possible reason that Christians tend to get bad reputation in the modern tolerance game could be because some other religions tend to be more tolerant.  I&#8217;m not going to profess to be a religious scholar, but I think it&#8217;s much more common for non-christian religions to include a concept like &#8220;We&#8217;re all striving for the same basic ideal, but we take different roads to get there&#8230;&#8221;  Christianity on the other hand seems to come off like &#8220;Our way or the highway.&#8221;  Believe = Get into heaven and the good graces of god/ don&#8217;t believe = go to hell.</p>
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		<title>By: The Doctor</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator>The Doctor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a backlash, I think, against the stereotype that's perpetuated of "the Christian;" narrow minded, bigoted, and completely against anything scientific. A lot of that is our own fault - when all this stuff started, a lot of believers didn't stand up and say "Hey! Wait a sec" and try and stop it. Also, a lot of believers DO act that way or have in the past - unfortunately, people see that as a trait of Christianity, rather than a lack of confidence in the Christian/group themselves.

As far as the points regarding other religions; I believe they call that a double standard. It goes hand in hand with the new, self-defeating definition of "tolerance." Tolerance applies to everyone EXCEPT the Christian who doesn't water down their beliefs until they mean basically nothing. It's ok for other groups to be exclusive, though.
(sigh)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a backlash, I think, against the stereotype that&#8217;s perpetuated of &#8220;the Christian;&#8221; narrow minded, bigoted, and completely against anything scientific. A lot of that is our own fault - when all this stuff started, a lot of believers didn&#8217;t stand up and say &#8220;Hey! Wait a sec&#8221; and try and stop it. Also, a lot of believers DO act that way or have in the past - unfortunately, people see that as a trait of Christianity, rather than a lack of confidence in the Christian/group themselves.</p>
<p>As far as the points regarding other religions; I believe they call that a double standard. It goes hand in hand with the new, self-defeating definition of &#8220;tolerance.&#8221; Tolerance applies to everyone EXCEPT the Christian who doesn&#8217;t water down their beliefs until they mean basically nothing. It&#8217;s ok for other groups to be exclusive, though.<br />
(sigh)</p>
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		<title>By: Sly Eagle</title>
		<link>http://comicfencing.com/2008/09/26/naturally-tired-leads-to-sleepy/#comment-1010</link>
		<dc:creator>Sly Eagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't hate it. There wasn't enough to merit the attention of hatred. I would've given it no stars, except that I use the star system to give a more objective rating since my reviews are singularly subjective. So, two stars for being a decent example of its type. Even if the world would be a better place if its type vanished from the earth already.

Yeah, geez. What's up with agreeing with me, guys? I felt okay being harsh because I figured &lt;i&gt;someone&lt;/i&gt; out of the four of you would like it and say glowy, positive-y things. Oh, okay, Delos did. ;)

The typical anti-Christian bigotry tends to confound me, mostly because the only argument is "you're an idiot because you believe in God." Now, as I understand it, don't Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, Wiccans, and any manner of all the religions you &lt;i&gt;don't&lt;/i&gt; make fun of, &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt;, also believe in God or Gods? So, what's the argument? You're an idiot if you're &lt;i&gt;white&lt;/i&gt; and believe in God? What's &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; supposed to mean?

For the record, whenever I go to more melting-pot regions, the Christian churches tend to have more "color" than not. Statistically, there tend to be more women Christians than men, and they tend to pretty evenly come from caucasian, african, asian, and hispanic backgrounds. But the Christian is almost always represented by a white man in a tie - oh hey, the only racial "group" it's acceptable to make fun of. Huhn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t hate it. There wasn&#8217;t enough to merit the attention of hatred. I would&#8217;ve given it no stars, except that I use the star system to give a more objective rating since my reviews are singularly subjective. So, two stars for being a decent example of its type. Even if the world would be a better place if its type vanished from the earth already.</p>
<p>Yeah, geez. What&#8217;s up with agreeing with me, guys? I felt okay being harsh because I figured <i>someone</i> out of the four of you would like it and say glowy, positive-y things. Oh, okay, Delos did. <img src='http://comicfencing.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The typical anti-Christian bigotry tends to confound me, mostly because the only argument is &#8220;you&#8217;re an idiot because you believe in God.&#8221; Now, as I understand it, don&#8217;t Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus, Wiccans, and any manner of all the religions you <i>don&#8217;t</i> make fun of, <i>ever</i>, also believe in God or Gods? So, what&#8217;s the argument? You&#8217;re an idiot if you&#8217;re <i>white</i> and believe in God? What&#8217;s <i>that</i> supposed to mean?</p>
<p>For the record, whenever I go to more melting-pot regions, the Christian churches tend to have more &#8220;color&#8221; than not. Statistically, there tend to be more women Christians than men, and they tend to pretty evenly come from caucasian, african, asian, and hispanic backgrounds. But the Christian is almost always represented by a white man in a tie - oh hey, the only racial &#8220;group&#8221; it&#8217;s acceptable to make fun of. Huhn.</p>
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